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	<title>Comments on: Tom Bandy on Tornado of Denominational Decline</title>
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	<description>Duncan Macleod on Faith and Culture</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a fairly lucid description that I&#039;ve seen happen before and to a certain extent at the moment. Not just denominations or individual churches but also things like theological colleges and service clubs.

It&#039;s also pretty &quot;dangerous&quot; to stand up and say the Emperor&#039;s wearing no clothes too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a fairly lucid description that I&#8217;ve seen happen before and to a certain extent at the moment. Not just denominations or individual churches but also things like theological colleges and service clubs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also pretty &#8220;dangerous&#8221; to stand up and say the Emperor&#8217;s wearing no clothes too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in a church where something similar to this took place. It&#039;s completely draining and sucks all joy out of the ministry. My personal observation is that these things start declining when people put their opinions and desires before those of others and become self-centered in &quot;their&quot; church. We must remember that the church has never belonged to us -- it is entrusted to us by God, the rightful head of the church. If a chuch staff can honestly and sincerely seek the Lord&#039;s direction and be willing to give up their preferences for the sake of His ministry, churches would be a lot better off. But of course, that assumes a certian level of spiritual maturity, which is an entirely different issue.

Thanks for the thoughts man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in a church where something similar to this took place. It&#8217;s completely draining and sucks all joy out of the ministry. My personal observation is that these things start declining when people put their opinions and desires before those of others and become self-centered in &#8220;their&#8221; church. We must remember that the church has never belonged to us &#8212; it is entrusted to us by God, the rightful head of the church. If a chuch staff can honestly and sincerely seek the Lord&#8217;s direction and be willing to give up their preferences for the sake of His ministry, churches would be a lot better off. But of course, that assumes a certian level of spiritual maturity, which is an entirely different issue.</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughts man!</p>
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