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	<title>Comments on: Churches Celebrating Evolution Weekend</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Limmer</title>
		<link>http://www.postkiwi.com/2009/churches-celebrating-evolution-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-152926</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Limmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, respectfully I am absolutely horrified that any proclaiming Christian can embrace something other than the Word of God as their Authority, When anyone lets someone in error be an authority to them then error is going to be learnt, Evolution is not a new theory of how Humanity etc came to be, Charles Darwin just gave it some respectability in the western world, Christians aren&#039;t against science, in fact without the Bible we couldn&#039;t know anything. We have &#039;laws of logic&#039;, we can only account for them though because we have the bible, laws of logic stem from Gods very character, we only know about His character because of His revelation to us through His Word. we have &#039;uniformity of nature&#039; (laws of nature), we can only account for uniformity of nature because of the bible (Gen 8:22). We also have &#039;absolute morality&#039;, once again only justified because of the bible. All of these are required for intelligibility, they are only accounted for through the Word of God, so without The Bible we could not &quot;know&quot; anything, we would be reduced to foolishness, which is exactly what anything we (humans) propose instead of Gods Word, i.e. evolution. (for further reading on this please read &quot;Ultimate proof of creation&quot; by Dr Jason Lisle). In addition, I personally consider anyone claiming to believe in God but reject His word to be living in contradiction, so when a minister or pastor or clergy of any sort try to live in both camps they are really in opposition to the bible because Jesus Himself said there is no neutral, you are either for God or against, you either gather or you scatter, you can&#039;t serve two masters. So if you think you can be neutral you have automatically taken a position against the bible which means you are not actually neutral. Also there is no interpretation of Genesis or any other part of the Bible which can accommodate evolution, you have to reject Genesis to accept evolution so once again there is no neutrality. When anyone in the Church accepts &quot;mans&quot; opinions and ideas over and above of Gods Word then there will always be error in the Church and people will not have a reason to believe in God, and no clergy, minister or pastor who accepts evolution can rationally explain the reason why Jesus died on the cross. Thanks and I hope I haven&#039;t been disrespectful to anyone with this short post, because the bible in Genesis says we are ALL made in the image of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, respectfully I am absolutely horrified that any proclaiming Christian can embrace something other than the Word of God as their Authority, When anyone lets someone in error be an authority to them then error is going to be learnt, Evolution is not a new theory of how Humanity etc came to be, Charles Darwin just gave it some respectability in the western world, Christians aren&#8217;t against science, in fact without the Bible we couldn&#8217;t know anything. We have &#8216;laws of logic&#8217;, we can only account for them though because we have the bible, laws of logic stem from Gods very character, we only know about His character because of His revelation to us through His Word. we have &#8216;uniformity of nature&#8217; (laws of nature), we can only account for uniformity of nature because of the bible (Gen 8:22). We also have &#8216;absolute morality&#8217;, once again only justified because of the bible. All of these are required for intelligibility, they are only accounted for through the Word of God, so without The Bible we could not &#8220;know&#8221; anything, we would be reduced to foolishness, which is exactly what anything we (humans) propose instead of Gods Word, i.e. evolution. (for further reading on this please read &#8220;Ultimate proof of creation&#8221; by Dr Jason Lisle). In addition, I personally consider anyone claiming to believe in God but reject His word to be living in contradiction, so when a minister or pastor or clergy of any sort try to live in both camps they are really in opposition to the bible because Jesus Himself said there is no neutral, you are either for God or against, you either gather or you scatter, you can&#8217;t serve two masters. So if you think you can be neutral you have automatically taken a position against the bible which means you are not actually neutral. Also there is no interpretation of Genesis or any other part of the Bible which can accommodate evolution, you have to reject Genesis to accept evolution so once again there is no neutrality. When anyone in the Church accepts &#8220;mans&#8221; opinions and ideas over and above of Gods Word then there will always be error in the Church and people will not have a reason to believe in God, and no clergy, minister or pastor who accepts evolution can rationally explain the reason why Jesus died on the cross. Thanks and I hope I haven&#8217;t been disrespectful to anyone with this short post, because the bible in Genesis says we are ALL made in the image of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolve Beyond Belief with Darwin</title>
		<link>http://www.postkiwi.com/2009/churches-celebrating-evolution-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-54164</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolve Beyond Belief with Darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that belief or faith is no longer needed, belongs in the same category of fundamentalism. See my post on my personal blog, on the religious organisations that are celebrating the 200th anniversary of Darwin&#8217;s birth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that belief or faith is no longer needed, belongs in the same category of fundamentalism. See my post on my personal blog, on the religious organisations that are celebrating the 200th anniversary of Darwin&#8217;s birth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doubting Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.postkiwi.com/2009/churches-celebrating-evolution-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-17609</link>
		<dc:creator>Doubting Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The authors of the Christian Clergy Letter have totally misunderstood Darwinism. By talking about &quot;God given faculty of reason&quot; &amp; &quot;God&#039;s gifts of the human mind&quot; misses the point that our brains along with our reason got that way by natural selection not by any will or design of any Creator. To suggest that there is no basic conflict between religion and science is to reject reality. They cannot co-exist. Why can&#039;t people accept that we are lucky to be alive but there is no hereafter, heaven or hell? In accepting the obvious, it takes a huge burden off us &amp; we can then really appreciate life &amp; all it has to offer. We can be kind &amp; loving because they are good qualities rather than believing in being rewarded in some non existant post life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The authors of the Christian Clergy Letter have totally misunderstood Darwinism. By talking about &#8220;God given faculty of reason&#8221; &amp; &#8220;God&#8217;s gifts of the human mind&#8221; misses the point that our brains along with our reason got that way by natural selection not by any will or design of any Creator. To suggest that there is no basic conflict between religion and science is to reject reality. They cannot co-exist. Why can&#8217;t people accept that we are lucky to be alive but there is no hereafter, heaven or hell? In accepting the obvious, it takes a huge burden off us &amp; we can then really appreciate life &amp; all it has to offer. We can be kind &amp; loving because they are good qualities rather than believing in being rewarded in some non existant post life.</p>
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		<title>By: Erasmus</title>
		<link>http://www.postkiwi.com/2009/churches-celebrating-evolution-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-17606</link>
		<dc:creator>Erasmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be honest. Natural selection does not need any supernatural help. God didn&#039;t create us. The Bible is simply myth, no doubt based on some original fact but embellished over the eons &amp; similar to the stories of King Arthur. The mystery is how life originally arose. Fundamentalists say God created life in the first place but in 50 years time I am certain that science will have shown that God played no part in this either. How about the origin of the universe? The Large Haldron Collider is in the process of solving this one too. God is running out of places to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest. Natural selection does not need any supernatural help. God didn&#8217;t create us. The Bible is simply myth, no doubt based on some original fact but embellished over the eons &amp; similar to the stories of King Arthur. The mystery is how life originally arose. Fundamentalists say God created life in the first place but in 50 years time I am certain that science will have shown that God played no part in this either. How about the origin of the universe? The Large Haldron Collider is in the process of solving this one too. God is running out of places to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Mavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting. And good to see some Sydney involvement. I met my own &#039;Bob Carr&#039; last year.  Alistair Riddell was a science teacher in Hamilton who helped me see beyond my creationist convictions way back.  It was nice to be able to tell him how formational a simple conversation with a school kid had been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting. And good to see some Sydney involvement. I met my own &#8216;Bob Carr&#8217; last year.  Alistair Riddell was a science teacher in Hamilton who helped me see beyond my creationist convictions way back.  It was nice to be able to tell him how formational a simple conversation with a school kid had been.</p>
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